Thank you for your perspective AND for taking the initiative to look into Maryland laws. Steve unless the Perp spills his guts to the Police Officer your contact with him could be construed as interference The repenting for the Perp comes after conviction and jail Any counseling by a Pastor should come from a Pastor totally unconnected to the Church Representing the Church means representing the victim until the allegation is proven untrue or the Perp is convicted and in jail period By going and seeing your friend as a Pastor you are being unfair to the victim If the Perp makes admissions to you it cant be used against him because your a Pastor Thats not fair to the victim and you just put yourself in place of siding with thePerp, Steve are you kidding me you can bring Spiritual disapline before the authoritys can act Thats obstruction Do you hear what your saying You should stay out of it This Pastor who did his own Investigation is dead wrong He could be prosecuted Plus you dont think this guy dumped his hard drives and phones already Im sure their in the San Francisco Bay CHILD PORN ITS A FEDERAL OFFENSE IF THIS GUY CALLED THE COPS THE FEDS WOULD HAVE HANDLED IT AND GOT SEARCH WARRANTS FOR HIS HOME AND OFFICE AND ALL ELECTRONIC DEVISESBingo, Pastors dont think this is a big deal Short of murder this is the worst thing one can do This guy could do 20 plus years maybemore. If someone in the given situation wishes to personalize it and raise awareness of a problem thats fine, but we also need to be careful that an unwarranted stereotype is not wrongly attached to fundamentalism as a whole, as though just being a fundamentalist means you are a coverer-up of a rape culture. Let us know what God is doing in your life. Fundamentalist Pastor Calls Out Churchs Rape Culture. I personally have gained a new respect for my pastor. Stacey Shiflett (@staceyshiflett) May 23, 2018. Why? Hes wrong. Please have your Passports Ready. they dont. The problem starts with pastors thinking its their divine right to be judge and jury. Here's how, Heaven will be diverse. GSBC College Days Don't miss out on College Days at GSBC! 3,456 were here. He clarified his use of the word consensual and shared with me that his investigation was for his own peace of mind since Giovanelli was a friend and the former pastor of Calvary Baptist Church. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. My fear is the the church will bury you now because you are not willing to be on the team. Golden State Bible College President on administrative leave over allegations of 'inappropriate conduct' By Jim. Santa Clara, CA 95054, 3520 De La Cruz Blvd. Follow Samuel Smith on Twitter: @IamSamSmith. More By Golden State Baptist College. I updated the post with this link. BBC becomes University April 20, 2015. . And barring prosecution, I hope the perpetrator will never be permitted to pastor or work with children/teens again. I saw homophobia, racism, ethnic slurs, and the usual lack of empathy you would expect from the conservative fundamentalist stereotype. To be able to get up and continue to preach every week and keep it all together really makes me question if he really ever new Christ in the first place. My efforts were completely wasted.. Theres a difference between being a preaching technician and being a leader. The Ministry is the company. Im not , for many reasons, a fan of IFB beliefs and practices. I saw homophobia, racism, ethnic slurs, and the usual lack of empathy you would expect from the conservative fundamentalist stereotype. The Members are the customers. The rest of Triebers statement went something like this: the church and related ministries are blameless, and please pray for our church and the rapist. Please keep our ministry, the Giovanelli family and all others involved in your prayers. Secrecy does not inspire trust, honesty and integrity do. Jesus Christ has freed me from addiction and I STILL fail every single day in soooooo many areas of my life! He is predisposed they can use a sting on thePerp. Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Shiflett: I am very grateful for some very positive results today. I do give Shiflett props for speaking up. Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days areevil. Copyright 2023 The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser Powered by Flywheel. As far as guilt or due process is concerned, thats for the courts to decide. After the service, the mother of the pregnant girl wept hard and grabbed me and kept saying He promised us I asked her what she met and then she explained about the rape and the promise made to her. You call the cops. People who tell the truth deserve praise, as we here have praised the man willing to tell the truth from within the religious cage. A monitored phone call or meeting between the victim and accused may be the quickest way to the truth. Morality comes from a love for Life! Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Imagine how much better it might be for sexual abuse victims if their pastors not only listened to them but acted morally, ethically, decently, and responsibly on their behalf. There are slanderous vindictive people that are willing to make up horrendous lies- either for attention or revenge. Because the IFB maintains ideologies of separatism and elitism, they tend to deal with their issues in house. The trend is: keep it in the church, dont tell anyone (authorities included), blame the victim, and re-locate the offender to another church in another town (and dont forget his severance package). Very sad since this really is a disgusting that that hasnt been done. The victim sued the church. It is for this reason, that I continue to post Black Collar Crime stories, regardless of the threats and abuse hurled my way. I dont have a potty mouth. I just have a larger vocabulary than you. Now that more and more victims are coming forward, lets see the follow up. where is the news coverage there is only accusations for months now i dont fall on either side of this becouse there has been no proof you can say he resigned yes he did however that was not an admission of guilt and we dont know why it was done so i ask any updates. He'll Do It Again. The victim has filed charges with authorities. All responsibilities of any nature whatsoever, were permanently and immediately terminated with receipt of his resignation. He took the job and did not worry, because this isnt true! Please dont let this happen. Student Reviews of Golden State Baptist College, a Baptist, Non-Profit, King James, Bible, Institute, founded in 1996, and located in Santa Clara, California, USA. Its never too late to do better. By this point, two other victims had come forward claiming Giovanelli did the same thing to them, but no one yet had any intention of contacting law enforcement. This should serve as an example to others, like Dr. Bob Gray Sr.,a fellow Hyles-Anderson alumni (Hey, buddy! Well, in a shocking turn of events, one IFB mega-pastor took a public stand against these actions, and those of us who have come out of that culture, many being survivors of abuse ourselves, arent quite sure what to think. But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. whole other story: from shaming and vilifying shooting survivors and victim families (which really is just sick), to jokes about waterboarding and torture. Thank-you Jesus for the structure of faith that not only allows us to harm ourselves and others but is designed to do exactly that. (I appreciated the investigation of PastorShiflett). Church leadership has a responsibility with public sin to understand the facts of the case. Im saved! There has been absolutely no proof provided, yet people are ready to hang him and totally ruin his name. Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. Arrest, prosecution, and imprisonment do. Oh the number of times I heard that in 5 decades of ardent faithit makes me question if he was a true believer in the first place He probably was as fervent as you were, but hypocrisy, preaching against something then doing it yourself is part of the broken system that x-tianity is. I Did, and He Didnt. I understand the desire/need to bury abuse and move on. Unaccredited master's degree programs are also offered. All you know about Jesus is what little is said about him in the gospels and what preachers have been saying about him for the past 2,000 years. Not only does he defend the victim and publicly advocate for her, but he comes forward about his own previous victimization and experience with church cover-ups! You can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. Supporters of alleged victims can get very angry if you question the stories of the victims in any way, sometimes misunderstanding the need to gather facts. He instilled things in me that took me years to realize. On May 11, 2018, the victim, Sarah Jackson, posted the following on Facebook: Stacey Shiflett, the current pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Dundalk, Maryland the church Giovanellli pastored when he allegedly assaulted Jackson released the following video: Theres much about this video that irritates the living hell out of me, especially the fact that the pastor investigated instead of immediately calling law enforcement. That being said, the I in IFB stands or independent, which means that each church is an entity unto itself. A 4th degree misdemeanor offense that carries a maximum 1 year prison sentence and $1,000 fine. I tried not to get it on the internet. God Is Still Good. This is a traumatic event in any event. People today are so willing to believe anything. Home; GSBC.edu; Contact Us; Home; GSBC.edu; Contact Us; Category / Academics. I know you reject what I am saying and have to judge me as of the devil but I encourage you to continue to get help regarding your addiction and to try to find your way to the original reasons for it. Yes I have read the law and the worst case scenario for him would be 1 year of prison and a fine. I know several that have done this and it irks me a little. Evangelism is the marketing planetc. It served its purpose. Still, I have to object to the false idea that being saved changes people essentially from sinners to something else. What, by the way, is a clean life? Bible Baptist College - Clarks Summit, Pennsylvani. Ask yourself the logical question, why is this coming out now? A man who was supposed to be our godly leader and council. So heres hoping that this video and the bravery of the victim and of Pastor Shiflett does indeed start a revolution within fundamentalism to hold abusers accountable. Even though there are some gaping holes in your message, I can tell you that for the first time in almost ten years, I have this small twinge of faith and hope in IFB leadership. Im saddened at this situation and more than a little angry at another example of churches handling matters like this in house. Still, I thank-you for standing beside Sarah Jackson as someone willing to care and speak the truth. However, the lawyer tried to bargain for a more lenient sentence by arguing that the relationship between Giovanelli and Jackson was consensual.. It was founded in 1996 as an outgrowth of Golden State Baptist Institute. The honesty, the integrity, the empathy and compassiongasp is this really happening? Must one know Christ how does someone know a corpse? Giovanelli was living in Orange Park, Florida, facing a civil . John Bunyan. Quite refreshing to hear. King David said, Uriah died in battle? So they had to be careful about what they said. I wholeheartedly agree that such perpetrators should be exposed and prosecuted, and the victims should be helped. Approximately 30 years ago, Dr. Jack Trieber began to see the need to train men and ladies of our church and nearby churches for full-time Christian service. As iron sharpens iron, Neal, himself, was caught up in a sex scandal in 2011 when he was accused of video voyeurism. Even in that Calvary pastors statement hes acting like the church can practice sharia law or something, but this is America and we have due process. Floor leaders perform routine "lights out" checks at 11:00 PM, however if a student is out at work they are allowed to be out as late as 1 AM. Golden State Baptist Schools in Bakersfield, California serves 12 students in grades Kindergarten-12. Most pastors would not do what he did, so he deserves a lot of credit for doing the right thing. Sometimes, the truth gets to squirm through into the light. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVLn59Ujg-o, Or, you can youtube Response by Pastor Stacey Shiflett to North Valley Baptist Church. Here, Shiflett takes on a big name IFB leader and megachurch to defend a rape victim, yet the rest of his social media tells awhole other story: from shaming and vilifying shooting survivors and victim families (which really is just sick), to jokes about waterboarding and torture. You have destroyed Him. A response is pending. I would suggest that the faith you refer to is really you, a character that is to be admired for standing alone against abusers. Its not that they shouldnt forgive, but that the wounds are so fresh that justice should be the first concern. After it all went down, Shiflett tweeted: Its time now for all the leaders in our movement that have expressed support to me privately, to come out publicly and help change the culture in Fundamentalism. But thats not the churches job to investigate in a criminal matter and its not their place to get justice. - David Wells. The church can bring spiritual justice through discipline quickly, much more so than theauthorities. Support the victims. I feel sorry for the victim and everyones anger. You may know how to read, but Future Students Find helpful information about Golden State Baptist College. Why so much outrage over the burning of an LGBT Pride flag? A Baptist pastor and former college president accused of grooming and sexually abusing a teenager over a decade ago as a pastor in Maryland has been sentenced to 90 days in jail after pleading guilty to lesser charges in December. Therefore itsays, Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead,and Christ will shine onyou.. I dont care if the accused is your best friend. PREVIOUS POST. Vous profitez de 60% de rduction le week-end et pendant les vacances scolaires et 30% en semaine. My opinions are well known in the IFB community. of non-believers and spreads out-right lies about Planned Parenthood. And the general IFB verbiage about ministry, loyalty, and the appeal to authority and personal experience, were, at least to me, unnecessary. Also as far as what you said about IFB Christians, Im sure there are very many that dont act like Christians, but they are human just like the rest of us. And if there is a case then prosecute to the full extent. I knew this man for years and Im terribly ashamed of his actions because he was raised sooo much better! Golden State Baptist College - He Knows My Name Lyrics | Musixmatch Lyrics He Knows My Name Golden State Baptist College Written by: Last update on: February 26, 2022 No translations available + Add Translation We detected some issues Christian Joshua Cabal suggested changes to these lyrics. Keep your own life clean God is the real judge! Cover-ups are all too common in both the IFB church movement and Evangelicalism as a whole. This is especially the case when I consider that people rarely abuse just one minor. I just think that there is a difference between covering something up / trying to conceal a crime, and restraining from publicly convicting someone in a capacity that is not in a court of law, and before all the facts have come out (usually a court of law is necessary for this). If they were to pronounce the man guilty on a world wide stream of something he hasnt officially been convicted of, there would be the potential for a defamation suit from him. This post is about sexual asssault, and you are more worried about someone having a potty mouth? Take your sanctimonious morality policing and shove it where the sun doesnt shine. I dont care if you disagree with how the Investigator wants to do his investigation. And PLEASE I beg you, do anything you can to help THE VICTIM of any abuse that you know about. Then the video was uploaded on Friday morning because the situation wad not handled right and the people were misinformed. Shiflett said he was giving Trieber a chance to control the narrative., The ball is in your court now, you have to deal with it. This should be a clear message to the FUNDY/EVANGELICAL FRINGE OLD GUARD to cut the crap and do whats right. as far as Giovanelli not being able to work with children again, i agree, he shouldnt be able to. If any incorrect information is found, please contact Bruce Gerencser. Huh? United States. He showed me that even the man we are supposed to trust most, could not be trusted., Jackson opened up publicly up about the experience she had with Giovanelli in 2018 and launched a blog called Letters of Freedom., Giovanellis lawyer told the court on Monday that his client accepts responsibility, according to The Baltimore Sun. That said, all that matters on this issue is that the victim finds healing and the perpetrator is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. She will pursue justice in court & our church will continue to support her. You dont tell him your calling the Police. It is true in most all states that pastors are mandatory reporters of such problems. If you dont own your problems, your problems will own you. If a video is removed by Google, it says so. The purpose of GSBC is to train men and women who have a sincere desire to serve the Lord. But, if you are a Christian, the Bible does not say thou shalt never judge. I was reminded of the rookie pastor who, when an allegation of sexual assault came up against one of his deacons, physically escorted said deacon to the police station and asked them to deal with it. Well lo and behold the year the statue of limitations ran out on a sunday night this staff member was voted back into the church. Shiflett says that since he posted his video hehas been flooded from all over the world pastors, laymen, parents, Bible college students, staff members, people that are not even in church, people that are not even saved, reaching out to disclose their own experiences, ask for help, and thank him for speaking up. Does anyone know any updates. In your heart, you know why you reached out to dull the pain and it wasnt because of some imaginary Devil anymore than it was an imaginary God who saved you. If you contact the accused about the allegation you just destroyed that opportunity ie YOU OBSTRUCTED A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. There can be such fear where it becomes irrational (Im not going to have them around my kid, even if they have repented and have higher standards for themselves than the law or the parents wouldhave! Its not even the fact that he messed up! 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